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I've just been reading about RTI following all the letters to employers that have been received this week and come across the following on HMRCs Website:

Contingency plans

Have contingency plans ready in case of computer and/or other failures or problems, such as a loss of your internet connection. There's no facility to make your payroll reports via email, or by filling in a form on a web page. But you can send in your reports in advance of the actual payday.

So are we all supposed to be psychic and know exactly when our/our client's computer is likely to fail or our/their internet connection fails in advance????

It goes on to say 

What happens if you don't report payroll information on time

The guidance for employers using HMRC's new Real Time Information (RTI) is under construction so, if you are an employer taking part in the pilot, please use existing guidance at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/problems-inspections/annual-return-late.htm

So it seems that if anything goes wrong the client will be subject to a late return penalty.



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I expect that the regime HMRC is currently thinking of will resemble the penalty regime for CIS. ie absolutely swingeing penalties for minor errors of ommission. Except worse for weekly payrolls... 52 opportunities for escalating penalties annually!

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Or how to increase one's tax yield whilst telling the voters that tax is being kept low to help the economy.

Don't even get me onto interest on late payments on account for money that one may not even make until the end of period if at all.



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Hi all,

ICB has HMRC attending its local meetings to give talks on RTI and answer questions etc. 

There is one in West Yorkshire on the 29th, or Lancashire on Tuesday.

For a list of other locations visit http://www.bookkeepers.org.uk/myICB/events.aspx



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Couldn't agree more. The swingeing CIS regime along with HMRC deliberately delaying P35 penalty notices is why we should have lavish RTI exemptions and late filing chances for the additional and new burden. I expect this is what respondents to the Penalty Consultation will be saying, but doubt this will be reflected in the regime.








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ICBUK wrote:

Hi all,

ICB has HMRC attending its local meetings to give talks on RTI and answer questions etc. 

There is one in West Yorkshire on the 29th, or Lancashire on Tuesday.

For a list of other locations visit http://www.bookkeepers.org.uk/myICB/events.aspx


 How do I get a ticket to the Lancashire one on the 13th?



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Rhianrach wrote:
ICBUK wrote:

Hi all,

ICB has HMRC attending its local meetings to give talks on RTI and answer questions etc. 

There is one in West Yorkshire on the 29th, or Lancashire on Tuesday.

For a list of other locations visit http://www.bookkeepers.org.uk/myICB/events.aspx


 How do I get a ticket to the Lancashire one on the 13th?


Hi Steve

If you're an ICB member and want to purchase online.

Click on above link

Look at number 2 - Lancashire Branch Meeting - November  and click on more...

log into ICB

then click on details next to the ticket prices

next screen gives you option to add to basket.

 

If you're unable to sign in and want to purchase call ICB on 0845 060 2345

 

At the time of writing this it says there are 8 places left.

Hope that helps

Brigitte 



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http://www.payrollworld.com/article/17537/news/rti-petition-launched-to-move-filing-from-real-time-to-once-a-month

Article containing link to E-Petition against R.T.I.



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Where is the West Yorkshire one ? Is it the 29th of November ?

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Where is the West Yorkshire one ? Is it the 29th of November ? Can't see it on the web site

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Awww Sharon, I resurrected an old post. My apologies.

Tim

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Where is the petition Tim? I want to sign it. Sorry if It's obvious, but I can hardly see due to too many long hours working!

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Hi Joanne

Here's the link

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69415

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Lol Tim just realised ! Must have had too much Tobagan sun or rum last night !

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Thanks Richard, all signed.



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