Another recession - The Book-keepers Forum

ghis · Senior Member

Another recession

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Hi Ghislane,

despite what we were being told, around my area it never felt as though we were out of the last one.

Maybe if rather than pretending to be something that they're not and pandering to labour voters who will never change their voting habbits anyway the Government should start actually delivering on some of the pre election promises that have yet to see the light of day like the total repeal of IR35.

Lets get some entrepeneurial spirit back into the country rather than them talking about supporting small businesses and then keep beating people with a stick everytime they try to climb up the ladder.

ghis · Senior Member

Shamus wrote:

the Government should start actually delivering on some of the pre election promises that have yet to see the light of day like the total repeal of IR35.

They are all the same, they never deliver what they promise.

It seemed to have slightly perked up here employment and sales went up.

The news definitly has an impact in making people feel worse off than they really are.

Well we have to keep getting up from those knocks.

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

ghis wrote:
Well we have to keep getting up from those knocks.

Just wish for once that we managed to have a recovery because of a government rather than despite them!

Spamkebab · Guru

Back to old clothes and porridge.

VinceH · Senior Member

You have porridge?

We go to the local building site and scoop cement into our bowls while it's still wet enough to look like porridge.

Amanda · Guru

Bread and Water then!

I am just about to loose a client as I said in a previous thread, its due to the economic climate.

I think things have slowed up again but the thing is the media don't help by announcing it all the time! It just puts peoples' backs up and then they think twice about spending their money. When infact small businesses need help with their books not them going off and doing it themselves, only to end up in a mess and then call us bookkeepers to sort it all out again!

Anyway better not go on too much as its not a polictics forum!

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Amanda wrote:
Anyway better not go on too much as its not a polictics forum!

Go on, you know that you want to wink

Dalbir · Senior Member

We just need to re-invent ourselves and have a new export, last time it was the city and services. Glad car industry is moving in the right direction. Other industries: cloud computing (yep in 10yrs time, Britain capital of cloud software), green energy, education, tourism including the new generation of royals and posh shops. What other sectors have I missed that will put the Great back into Britain? Dalbir

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

lol Dalbir,

maybe the main upsurge in the economy will be from airlines, removal companies and the people who refurbish the departure lounges in airports.

Think rats and sinking ships.

last one off the island please turn the lights off after you.

kjmcculloch83 · Expert

Amanda wrote:
When infact small businesses need help with their books not them going off and doing it themselves, only to end up in a mess and then call us bookkeepers to sort it all out again!

Just think how much extra we can charge them next year to sort it all out when HMRC is banging on their door with penalties. I love a desperate client, they always want to spend more than one with no motivation.

Bring it on. Just means we don't eat all year, then eat like kings in January.

Kris

Dalbir · Senior Member

Hi Shaun. I aint moving. I luv the green land and variety of regional accents we have. Govnt need to get unemployed folks of all ages, opportunity to use their skills to sell products or services via employment or self employment; otherwise we will end up with a big mental health bill in my opinion. Dalbir

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Hi Kris,

your not allowing for ridiculous numbers of them setting up bookkeeping businesses!

Thats what seems to be happening around by me in that most of those being given the push are ex office workers and they seem to think that this is an easy option! To quote one of the posters on here from the other day "it's just adding up a few numbers".

On the back of that maybe we should all go off asking Dave from Training Link if he needs a dozen or so tutors.... Either that or we go with Peasie's option and just start knocking off the competition.

kjmcculloch83 · Expert

Hold the bus shaun, are you telling me after these last 2 years that there's more to this bookkeeping lark than just adding up a few numbers? I thought the software was doing it all for me. Well, I'm going to look silly. Actually, the new bookkeepers don't really bother me, perverse I may be but I actually thrive on it. Every time I come across a new bookkeeper locally they gat added to my 'battle board' in the office. There's a new one opened that does worry me a tiny bit, they're really close and seem to know what they're doing. Their marketing looks the doggies doo-dahs. Kris

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

battle board... just got this vision now of a big board covered in photographs... some of them with big red X's through them. lol.

Talk later. Its the new Big bang theory then a good repeat followed by two broke girls. Back at 9:30 ish

-- Edited by Shamus on Thursday 26th of April 2012 08:01:12 PM

Spamkebab · Guru

Yep, you gotta love this forum.

Rhianrach · Guru

I want to know more about this battle board. Are we talking like WW2 style, do you hire people to push things around on it with big sticks Kris? If so can I have a job or do you have to be a woman?

Amanda · Guru

Kris,

Is it the dart board?

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Hi Steve,

we've just received this picture snook out of the McCulloch operations centre

p.s. no disrespect intended to the real people in the picture. Absolute heroes every last one of them. The battle of Britain film should be compulsory viewing for every child in the country.

kjmcculloch83 · Expert

I don't ...ahem.. actually... er... have a 'battle board'....

Shaun, In light of this photo security has been stepped up around the operations room.

-- Edited by kjmcculloch83 on Thursday 26th of April 2012 10:04:23 PM

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

lol Kris.

Right, got to go file some P35's and print some P60's (hope the orange holds out on the printer. It's been a bit hammered this last couple of weeks).

Talk later,

Shaun.

Peasie · Guru

Shamus wrote:
Talk later. Its the new Big bang theory then a good repeat followed by two broke girls. Back at 9:30 ish

Most annoying - I miss it at 8pm. Is the new series repeated any time or will I have to wait a couple of years. I'm not watching it on $OD (if it is even on there).

semsley · Guru

OK so the figure from the ONS state there has been negative growth for the last two periods - well currently one of my clients is having to submit figures to the ONS on income each month and it's a nightmare because you have to give them the figures by the 7th following the end of the month - it's all done on an automated phone call. Anyway I wouldn't trust them.

I actually think we are just starting to come out of recession and I base this on personal circumstances. My OH has just got back into employment after 3 years - he is a structural engineering technician and historically when recession starts they are the first to be affected but equally on an upturn they are the first to be back.

Like Amanda I think the media obsession with bad news leads to self-fulling prophesy and wish they'd butt out. We need positive stories to instil confidence in order to boost the economy by encouraging people to buy (preferably stuff made here rather than imports).

ghis · Senior Member

semsley wrote:
We need positive stories to instil confidence in order to boost the economy by encouraging people to buy (preferably stuff made here rather than imports).

Only thing about buyig from this country, is that it ripps it's own people off with Tax. You are taxed on money that has already been taxed. And everything is over priced. Thats why people import.

I am still waiting for VAT to be reduced back to 17.5. but this is another argument.

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