My understanding is the Revenue figure excludes VAT. I have a customer on the VAT Flat Rate Scheme paying 10%.
So they invoice a customer showing a cost of £100 net plus 20% VAT giving a total cost to the customer of £120. Under the Flat Rate Scheme the VAT liability is 10% of the £120 = £12.
So is the Revenue figure the £100 or £108 (£120 - £12 Flat Rate VAT)?
Many thanks.
-- Edited by SecondTrader on Monday 3rd of July 2023 10:27:24 PM
Artois said
Tue Jul 4 08:19 2023
Their taxable turnover will be the gross amount including VAT minus any VAT paid so in this case £108 will be included on the profit and loss
SecondTrader said
Tue Jul 4 08:41 2023
Thanks, much appreciated
integraoutsourcing said
Fri Jul 14 07:34 2023
The Revenue figure typically excludes VAT. If a customer on the VAT Flat Rate Scheme pays 10%, the Revenue figure would be £100, excluding VAT. The VAT liability under the Flat Rate Scheme is calculated based on the total cost to the customer, including VAT. Therefore, the VAT amount of £12 should not be deducted from the Revenue figure.
My understanding is the Revenue figure excludes VAT. I have a customer on the VAT Flat Rate Scheme paying 10%.
So they invoice a customer showing a cost of £100 net plus 20% VAT giving a total cost to the customer of £120. Under the Flat Rate Scheme the VAT liability is 10% of the £120 = £12.
So is the Revenue figure the £100 or £108 (£120 - £12 Flat Rate VAT)?
Many thanks.
-- Edited by SecondTrader on Monday 3rd of July 2023 10:27:24 PM
Thanks, much appreciated
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are you sure.... this contradicts previous answer
Section 7.8 says "Accounts for businesses using the scheme will be prepared using gross receipts less the flat rate percentage"
So in this case £120.00 minus the 10% = £108.00
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/flat-rate-scheme-for-small-businesses-vat-notice-733--2
Thanks Doug
I kind of see where Integra is coming from
I record it as £100 sales £20 vat
Pay HMRC £12 and journal £8 to income as "profit" on the VAT.
Hi John
Which means £108 is taxable, which is what I said